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Quote of the day

med_cat: (Stethoscope)
"Medicine used to be simple, ineffective, and relatively safe...now it is complex, effective, and potentially dangerous."

(Sir Cyril Chantler)

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hhimring: Estel, inscription by D. Salo (Default)
May. 14th, 2017 08:37 am (UTC)
I can see the point he is making!
But like any such generalization, the opposite can be said to be true as well, to some extent. I suppose he is implying that most patients killed by earlier medicine would have died anyway?
med_cat: (Stethoscope)
May. 15th, 2017 03:25 am (UTC)
Mhm, yes, and I think there's more to this...can expand upon it if you're interested...let me know.
hhimring: Estel, inscription by D. Salo (Default)
May. 17th, 2017 06:43 am (UTC)
Thank you! I've read your responses to browngirl below.
med_cat: (cat and books)
May. 17th, 2017 12:05 pm (UTC)
You're welcome :)
May. 15th, 2017 03:55 am (UTC)
My reaction was pretty similar to yours. I'm not sure trepanation, or untreated fistulas, or mercury, or otc laudanum, or so many other things count as 'relatively safe'. (But I tend to be grumpy about nostalgia for reasons I will not go into at this time.)
med_cat: (Default)
May. 15th, 2017 05:18 am (UTC)
Yes...but this is not nostalgia. I think it is a matter of providing context for the quote; which I can provide if you would like?
May. 15th, 2017 05:30 am (UTC)
Absolutively! I'd love to know more context about this specific quote AND I always love it and learn from it when you post about medicine. *waits attentively*
med_cat: (Stethoscope)
May. 15th, 2017 06:42 am (UTC)
Thank you for your kind words :) I am glad if you have found my medicine and nursing-themed posts informative and relevant.

A bit of context, then: the quote was on one of the slides for the webinar from the AACN (American Association of Critical Care Nurses), titled "Support for the Second Victim: Caring for Our Own".

(Support the Second Victim: Health professionals suffer distress after poor patient outcomes, even if no error occurred.)

So.

Additionally, the current medical and technological advancements produce their own ethical dilemmas: just because you _can_ treat something, does that mean you _should_? and what is the value of quality vs. quantity of life?
May. 15th, 2017 07:31 am (UTC)
That is definitely important context. I listen quite a bit to can/should debates over treatment at work, including but not limited to DNR/DNIs .

*edified, contemplates*
med_cat: (dog and book)
May. 15th, 2017 07:41 am (UTC)
Mhm, it goes further than DNR/DNI/AND...

...have you read Atul Gawande's "Being Mortal"? If not, I think you might find it of interest...
debriswoman: (Default)
May. 14th, 2017 07:45 pm (UTC)
Oh yes:-)
med_cat: (Stethoscope)
May. 15th, 2017 03:26 am (UTC)
Thought you'd agree ;)

(The quote is from a recent webinar; the slides are posted, but not the audio; can let you know when the audio is posted, if you're interested :))